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		<title>By: The Inveterate Observer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big Brother is Watching You. Yes, YOU.</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-452</link>
		<author>The Inveterate Observer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big Brother is Watching You. Yes, YOU.</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] the Justice Department who worked in their Computer Crime and Intellectual Property division&#8230;read more &#124; digg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: More big brother ramblings - MotorcycleAddicts.org</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-460</link>
		<author>More big brother ramblings - MotorcycleAddicts.org</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] big brother ramblings   Interesting read...  Stay private! » Big Brother is Watching You. Yes, YOU.  __________________ &#34;People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-470</link>
		<author>BG</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Can you give any specific examples of normal Americans that have been personally effected by this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you give any specific examples of normal Americans that have been personally effected by this?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-471</link>
		<author>Anon</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This isn't anything new. At least 10 years ago, and back before any Bushes were president, every single telephone line in the united states was monitored and recorded for processing. YES every SINGLE ONE. Back then it was whispered about as "Echelon" and it could record all telephone, and was beginning to record the internet by getting traffic from backbones. When MCI Worldcom was around, I had access to the facility in Ohio, which had a "G Room", meaning aka this is government property. It was funny because it was OUR building, but that room was "rented out" to the US Government, and was staffed by government employees and not MCI.

I don't know why everyone is suprised, back around Pearl Harbor attacks, all mail was re-routed to Hawaii first, before coming to you, and ALL of IT WAS READ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t anything new. At least 10 years ago, and back before any Bushes were president, every single telephone line in the united states was monitored and recorded for processing. YES every SINGLE ONE. Back then it was whispered about as &#8220;Echelon&#8221; and it could record all telephone, and was beginning to record the internet by getting traffic from backbones. When MCI Worldcom was around, I had access to the facility in Ohio, which had a &#8220;G Room&#8221;, meaning aka this is government property. It was funny because it was OUR building, but that room was &#8220;rented out&#8221; to the US Government, and was staffed by government employees and not MCI.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why everyone is suprised, back around Pearl Harbor attacks, all mail was re-routed to Hawaii first, before coming to you, and ALL of IT WAS READ.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-472</link>
		<author>anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So pretty much what you are saying is that because this is being done under the Bush administration, you suspect the program is being abused.  Is there any evidence at all that you can give to show that even ONE person has been falsely targeted by this program?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So pretty much what you are saying is that because this is being done under the Bush administration, you suspect the program is being abused.  Is there any evidence at all that you can give to show that even ONE person has been falsely targeted by this program?</p>
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		<title>By: BLT</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-473</link>
		<author>BLT</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The paranoia over the "illegal Tapping of domestic phone calls" has been going on for a lot longer than most think. I used to be involved in the military intelligence side of the NSA as early as 1972. We listeded to a large variety of domestic phone traffic then as we do now in the interest of communications security. So when the NY Times makes a big deal over it now, I'm wondering why they didn't care to report it before 9-11 when Clinton was doing a lot more listening  than you think...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paranoia over the &#8220;illegal Tapping of domestic phone calls&#8221; has been going on for a lot longer than most think. I used to be involved in the military intelligence side of the NSA as early as 1972. We listeded to a large variety of domestic phone traffic then as we do now in the interest of communications security. So when the NY Times makes a big deal over it now, I&#8217;m wondering why they didn&#8217;t care to report it before 9-11 when Clinton was doing a lot more listening  than you think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-475</link>
		<author>jc</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>anonymous: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.  

Your naive, gullible, credulousness of our leaders is stunning.  Haven't you noticed that they LIE TO US ROUTINELY?  Did it escape you that such behaviour has a long and sordid history, both in the US and in other nations too numerous to name, over a period of CENTURIES?  No, make that MILLENIA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.  </p>
<p>Your naive, gullible, credulousness of our leaders is stunning.  Haven&#8217;t you noticed that they LIE TO US ROUTINELY?  Did it escape you that such behaviour has a long and sordid history, both in the US and in other nations too numerous to name, over a period of CENTURIES?  No, make that MILLENIA!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Blue Machine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big Brother is Watching You. Yes, YOU.</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-476</link>
		<author>Big Blue Machine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Big Brother is Watching You. Yes, YOU.</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] the Justice Department who worked in their Computer Crime and Intellectual Property division&#8230;read more &#124; digg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-479</link>
		<author>Doug</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 07:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've got an example for you. Two years ago a produce distributor that did buisiness with the company I worked for had a shipment of apples impounded at the Washington state line, and held for three days- while truck after truck with apples from the same facility passed through unhindered. It turns out that the produce buyer, who knew his buisiness, had emailed the growers representative in Wasington state to inquire about the health of that year's crop. Specifically about how much of the crop was affected by the outbreak they had been troubled by the previous year of a fairly common apple disease called "water core".  No one thought to connect the two until six months later in a produce trade journal there was an article by a swiss produce shipper who had made a similar email iquiry to a Canadian growers co-op with similar results- only his trucks were detained at the US border. In the article, the Swiss shipper commented to the effect of: To those of you who wondered if you were being watched, now you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got an example for you. Two years ago a produce distributor that did buisiness with the company I worked for had a shipment of apples impounded at the Washington state line, and held for three days- while truck after truck with apples from the same facility passed through unhindered. It turns out that the produce buyer, who knew his buisiness, had emailed the growers representative in Wasington state to inquire about the health of that year&#8217;s crop. Specifically about how much of the crop was affected by the outbreak they had been troubled by the previous year of a fairly common apple disease called &#8220;water core&#8221;.  No one thought to connect the two until six months later in a produce trade journal there was an article by a swiss produce shipper who had made a similar email iquiry to a Canadian growers co-op with similar results- only his trucks were detained at the US border. In the article, the Swiss shipper commented to the effect of: To those of you who wondered if you were being watched, now you know.</p>
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		<title>By: hollowex</title>
		<link>http://www.2-privacy.com/index.php/2007/02/22/big-brother-is-watching-you-yes-you/#comment-489</link>
		<author>hollowex</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If it took someone to show you some documents to know that AT&#38;T was doing this then you need to pay more attention to the news. AT&#38;T was allowed to regroup recently. Hmm I wander why... That was a clear enough sign for me. Apple chose Cingular which soon rebranded itself as AT&#38;T. Apple chose Cingular because they get to be cozier with the government. I don't blame them.  Welcome back Ma Bell. You already brought up echelon so I hardly understand your new found fear.  I spy with my little "eye".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it took someone to show you some documents to know that AT&amp;T was doing this then you need to pay more attention to the news. AT&amp;T was allowed to regroup recently. Hmm I wander why&#8230; That was a clear enough sign for me. Apple chose Cingular which soon rebranded itself as AT&amp;T. Apple chose Cingular because they get to be cozier with the government. I don&#8217;t blame them.  Welcome back Ma Bell. You already brought up echelon so I hardly understand your new found fear.  I spy with my little &#8220;eye&#8221;.</p>
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